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Posted 2008-04-08, 07:07 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "But you're missing the point. I'm not..."
But you're missing my point. When you give entitlements it only perpetuates the problem. If you really want to solve the issues it's gonna take something different than that. But anyways, I still don't understand why it's constitutional for there to be race based scholarships. Socioeconomics works fine. But no, being poor isn't enough. You have to be poor and of a certain hue. You can be beaten out by a kid who isn't as smart but whose parents just happened to be a certain color. It's silly.

Race should not be a consideration. Period.
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Posted 2008-04-08, 07:13 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "But you're missing my point. When you..."
But Race is going to be a consideration regardless of whether or not the government steps in. I will agree that the fix isn't the best one, but here's how it is:

Someone doesn't get a scholarship because they are black.
Someone gets a scholarship because they are black.

Both are wrong, but I would rather someone GET a scholarship BECAUSE they are black, rather than NOT get a scholarship BECAUSE they are black.

A black person doesn't get a job because the employer is racist.
A black person gets a job because the government requires the employer to hire a certain amount of minorities.

Same situation. Both are dumb, but one is less dumb than the other.
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Posted 2008-04-08, 07:25 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "But Race is going to be a consideration..."
There are plenty of intelligent people who are minorities who can earn their scholarships without handouts. Do Southerners get admitted to (insert ivy league) because their education system is lacking compared to the rest of the U.S.? Do they have certain slot reservations? Because that is just as relevant as race.

I just think wealth redistribution based on race is not the way to solve the conflicts over the deep cultural differences between whites and minorities (mostly blacks, I'd say).
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Posted 2008-04-08, 08:10 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "There are plenty of intelligent people..."
And those same intelligent people who are minorities might also get denied simply because they are a minority, if the person judging them is a racist. In some areas of our country, that is not unheard of.
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Posted 2008-04-08, 09:05 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "And those same intelligent people who..."
Considering race in a beneficial way (to minorities) is legal. In a non-beneficial way (to minorities) is illegal.
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Posted 2008-04-08, 09:44 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Considering race in a beneficial way..."
I know. That's affirmative action.
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