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Posted 2008-04-27, 11:07 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Are you being facetious?"
I'm being completely facetious.

However I do see the merit in calling it a theory. It's just highly UNLIKELY it is not a factual process.

Like I said somewhere before, the word "theory" allows science a valid excuse if God is fucking with our eyes.

But it is a pretty nil argument, seeing as to how the "what if" thought process will never lead to a solid conclusion. The only interpretation of reality I can think of that allows the firmest basis for discussion is the collective group of theories which science has produced to be taken as fact.
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Posted 2008-04-27, 03:36 PM in reply to Atnas's post starting "I'm being completely facetious. ;) ..."
to get back on subject....

kill the babies!! and by babies i mean unborn clumps of cells.
When my time comes, I want to be burried face down. That way, anyone that doesn't like me, can kiss my ass!
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Posted 2008-04-27, 06:23 PM in reply to talentedhamster's post starting "to get back on subject.... kill the..."
The only way to vote pro-abortion is to look at the unborn babies in a scientific way. But for all people that have a religions standpoint, they scream that abortion is wrong. I personally believe that abortion is wrong, because even if the baby is undeveloped, it still has the potential to become something big, and by big, I mean literally and morally.
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Posted 2008-04-27, 07:02 PM in reply to Wallow's post starting "The only way to vote pro-abortion is to..."
Why said:
The only way to vote pro-abortion is to look at the unborn babies in a scientific way. But for all people that have a religions standpoint, they scream that abortion is wrong. I personally believe that abortion is wrong, because even if the baby is undeveloped, it still has the potential to become something big, and by big, I mean literally and morally.
Wouldn't you be killing the potential every time you masturbate as well?
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Posted 2008-04-27, 07:08 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Wouldn't you be killing the potential..."
and every time i get my period
When my time comes, I want to be burried face down. That way, anyone that doesn't like me, can kiss my ass!
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Posted 2008-04-28, 01:31 PM in reply to talentedhamster's post starting "and every time i get my period"
For the record, I wasn't implying I was against the notion of the Big Bang theory, but rather, it is basically just as miraculous an event as anything that religions propose.

Also, when I speak of religion, I don't necessarily mean BIBLICAL religion alone. There's a whole lot more to religion than the bible. If you have some personal beef with the bible, that's a different topic

So far as abortion goes, no, masturbation wouldn't be the same, and no, a period wouldn't be the same, as an abortion. Furthermore, while I may state simply that I am "against abortion", there's a lot of details that I haven't elaborated on. A clearer way of expressing my feelings towards it would be that I am against CASUAL abortion, such as, abortion as a means of birth control. If you eliminated the casual, birth-control abortions, that would leave the life-threating, rape, etc. scenarios to be discussed, which makes things more complex.

In general, I just think that self-control is important and that there should be more of a focus on it in all areas of life. Having an abortion is usually (USUALLY, not ALWAYS) just the lazy and irresponsible way out of a difficult situation that poor choices have led to.
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Posted 2008-04-28, 01:55 PM in reply to krisvek's post starting "For the record, I wasn't implying I was..."
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For the record, I wasn't implying I was against the notion of the Big Bang theory, but rather, it is basically just as miraculous an event as anything that religions propose.
It's only miraculous now because we don't understand it yet. Once we manage to do that, it will be no more miraculous than lightning.

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So far as abortion goes, no, masturbation wouldn't be the same, and no, a period wouldn't be the same, as an abortion.
Why?

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Furthermore, while I may state simply that I am "against abortion", there's a lot of details that I haven't elaborated on. A clearer way of expressing my feelings towards it would be that I am against CASUAL abortion, such as, abortion as a means of birth control. If you eliminated the casual, birth-control abortions, that would leave the life-threating, rape, etc. scenarios to be discussed, which makes things more complex.
Why is abortion an unacceptable means of birth-control?

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In general, I just think that self-control is important and that there should be more of a focus on it in all areas of life.
Self control in what way? The only absolutely sure way to not get pregnant is abstinence. Are you advocating abstaining from sex altogether?

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Having an abortion is usually (USUALLY, not ALWAYS) just the lazy and irresponsible way out of a difficult situation that poor choices have led to.
Irresponsible in what way? The only way I can see someone arguing that is from a purely religious perspective.
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Posted 2008-04-28, 03:58 PM in reply to talentedhamster's post starting "and every time i get my period"
[QUOTE=talentedhamster]and every time i get my period[/QUOTE'

Masturbation doesn't affect the potential of an egg becoming fertilized, one always has more sperm (awkward). And a period is because an egg wasn't fertilized, it doesn't cause that... So I don't know where that came from
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Posted 2008-04-28, 04:24 PM in reply to Wallow's post starting "[QUOTE=talentedhamster]and every time i..."
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Masturbation doesn't affect the potential of an egg becoming fertilized, one always has more sperm (awkward).
One could always produce another fetus.
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Posted 2008-04-28, 05:05 PM in reply to talentedhamster's post starting "and every time i get my period"
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and every time i get my period
Exactly right. You're a baby killer. And every time you swallow that semen, you're a cannibal. I HOPE YOU CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT!
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Posted 2008-04-28, 05:07 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "Exactly right. You're a baby killer. ..."
wahh im a horrible person!!!!! =[
When my time comes, I want to be burried face down. That way, anyone that doesn't like me, can kiss my ass!
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