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Posted 2008-08-08, 07:56 PM in reply to Thanatos's post "Calling all Christians:"
Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has he not made his presence around you painfully obvious. Tell me, if God does not exist, how is it that you are here? You don't happen to believe in that old hoots theory of eviloution do you?
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Posted 2008-08-09, 04:08 PM in reply to hovind's post starting "Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has..."
He probably believes in evolution (in fact, I'm 110% sure he does).
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Posted 2008-08-09, 07:25 PM in reply to hovind's post starting "Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has..."
hovind said: [Goto]
Isn't it obvious that God made us?
No it's not. Hence the question Thanatos asked eariler see his first post.

hovind said: [Goto]
Has he not made his presence around you painfully obvious.
Now I know they say there are no stupid questions but after seeing this one I must respectfully disagree.

hovind said: [Goto]
Tell me, if God does not exist, how is it that you are here?
Heard of evolution? Oh you have. Then I must once again say, there is such a thing as a stupid question.

hovind said: [Goto]
You don't happen to believe in that old hoots theory of eviloution do you?
Yet another redundant question. Seriously your like my stupid father who points out the obvious and asks questions he already knows the answer to. For your own good stop. Stop while you are still able to post without being flamed. Being this stupid with english implores people not to listen or care about what you say.

Also it's spelled evolution. Keep it up and you will actually get flamed 24/7 for having no intelligence by everyone. Your opinion should not affect proper niceties such as grammar. That is how ebonics was born. The world can deal with ebonics but it will not tolerate big ball american hick speech.
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A Big Monkey. So?
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Posted 2008-08-09, 08:24 PM in reply to hotdog's post starting "No it's not. Hence the question..."
He intentionally spells it as "Evilution" because he views evolution as evil.
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Posted 2008-08-09, 08:06 PM in reply to hovind's post starting "Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has..."
If you're going to respond to questions with questions, please be sure the questions you ask have valid grounds.

Aside from the bible, which was not written by the hand of God himself but by the hands of many men (Some of whom, if I remember correctly, were considered heretics in their time. Alas, I cannot name names unfortunately. I could also be wrong in that aspect as well, however. I digress...) over a large span of time, there is no physical evidence that God is our creator. For many people the saying goes "Seeing is Believing".

I'll give you an example of how to counter one question with another:

Your question - Has he not made his presence around you painfully obvious.

My question - If God has made his presence "painfully obvious" as you put it, to the world, would we honestly be having this discussion?
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Posted 2008-08-11, 08:10 AM in reply to hovind's post starting "Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has..."
hovind said: [Goto]
Isn't it obvious that God made us? Has he not made his presence around you painfully obvious.
He sure hasn't. Can you provide instances where it is 'painfully obvious' God exists? If God existed, why has he left man in the dark about his existence? Why is he allowing people to go to war and die over the possibility that he could be real? A real God could exhibit himself clearly to all men and have all men following his will to the last letter without a doubt or a slip.

hovind said:
Tell me, if God does not exist, how is it that you are here? You don't happen to believe in that old hoots theory of eviloution do you?
Pretty much. Science > Religion. Since you're new here and I don't know you really, I'm going to assume your a devout Christian to come at me with arguments like this and since you're a devout Christian, you take the bible as absolute fact, right? Tell me why there are so many contradictions in the bible. Tell me how a single man and his family was able to gather up two of every animal in the entire world and fit them on a boat to wait out a storm that lasted 40 days and 40 nights. Some stories in the bible (that's really all they are - stories) make absolutely no sense and cannot possibly be taken as fact.

MidnightsCorus said:
"For those who believe in God,
No explanation is necessary;
For those who do not believe in God,
No explanation is possible."

I sort of agree with this.
That's such a copout. The fact is, Theists can give no proof leading to His existence.
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Posted 2008-08-11, 08:26 AM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "He sure hasn't. Can you provide..."
Thanatos said:
Theists can give no proof leading to His existence.
Faith isn't about proof.
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