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Posted 2008-09-07, 08:54 PM in reply to xSerenity Diedx's post starting "I dont have any proof I just go by..."
xSerenity Diedx said: [Goto]
I dont have any proof I just go by faith but just in case there is something in the afterlife I chose a religion just to be safe I know its retarted but yea.
That's perfectly fine. What isn't fine is when you try to force your belief on someone else, when what they believe actually has a significant amount of evidence and logic behind it. That's my only problem with religious people, really, is that they can't keep it to themselves. I do have a problem with willfull ignorance, but that isn't limited to just religious people.
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Posted 2008-09-08, 08:38 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "That's perfectly fine. What isn't fine..."
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That's perfectly fine. What isn't fine is when you try to force your belief on someone else, when what they believe actually has a significant amount of evidence and logic behind it. That's my only problem with religious people, really, is that they can't keep it to themselves. I do have a problem with willfull ignorance, but that isn't limited to just religious people.
Back when I was a Christian (lol), I went to this church that made it mandatory for church members to "Preach the word of God" to non-believers every week. Then next week the youth-pastor would be like, "So, how many people did you guys reach out to?"
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Posted 2008-09-08, 12:45 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "Back when I was a Christian (lol), I..."
I don't even really particularly mind people OFFERING what they believe. Like mormon missionaries. They ask if they can tell you about their teachings and such. That's fine with me. What ISN'T fine with me (besides how they always show up at like 7:00 AM on Saturday) is when I say "No thanks" and they're overly persistant about it. I've had the same missionaries come multiple times. I've had them offer to help us bring groceries in just so they can get inside. At that point, they're crossing the line. No should mean "no," and I shouldn't have to say it more than once a month or so.

I also don't particularly like it when a religious person claims that I am WRONG. They have no right to say that I am wrong. They can say that they believe that I'm wrong, or that they believe that they are right, but when they start claiming some sort of knowledge that they do not have, I can't help but get annoyed. I don't claim to KNOW that Evolution is true, I claim to believe it, because there is no way I can ever KNOW that it is true, just like they can't ever KNOW that their religion is true. What I believe has more evidence than what they believe, which is just more of a reason why they shouldn't claim that they are right and I'm wrong.
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Posted 2008-09-08, 03:50 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I don't even really particularly mind..."
I dont really force my beliefs on people but if you say some dumb shit like "omg I hatelife everyone is so fake I mutilate myself for relief im spoiled as fuck yet I still have the shittyest life ever."Then ill tell that person that they need jesus or they should really seek out some type of doctor.
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Posted 2008-09-08, 04:03 PM in reply to xSerenity Diedx's post starting "I dont really force my beliefs on..."
lol all insane people need jesus... they lack the self control it takes to understand that hey, we dont know how we got here - science points towards evolution. If an insane patient had the self control it took to understand the science behind it then you could start preaching evolution... but because they dont you need to explain it to them in a way that anyone could understand. "god put us here, god made this, god made that, god god god..." does it make sence now?!

A teacher asked me, "Do you believe if something contradicts itself it can't be true?" (like a light can't be on and off) to which i replied, "yes" he then asked me a series of questions.

"Do you believe in god"
"Do you believe he can make anything he wants"
"Do you believe that he can lift anything he wants"

"Do you believe that he can make a mountain so big he can't lift it?"

If you said yes to all the questions then you believe in something in which contradicts itself to the fullest. And on the first question if you said yes it can't be true, perhaps you might rethink your position.
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Posted 2008-09-09, 03:28 PM in reply to Kazilla's post starting "lol all insane people need jesus......"
Ok were talking about supernatural beings and then humans who cant do shit, your teacher failed hard.(Mountain so big he can lift? Lawl?)
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Posted 2008-09-09, 05:35 PM in reply to xSerenity Diedx's post starting "Ok were talking about supernatural..."
its a contradictory sentence... if i had stated that he can make a mountain so big he can lift it then it doesnt work. If you have agree'd that constradiction is false, and to the other three criteria, then i feel you were just caught with your foot in your mouth and are attempting to downsize the source of your defeat.

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