Why does GOD do this?

Technically that thread has expired. I mean, the last post was 3 years ago.

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There is no God

Im just going to say that believing in a higher being, such as God, is a great way to move past shit like this. It gives you an out. It works for me and might not work for you. Quite honesyly, I dont care if you believe in the devil as long as you are happy and it gives you a way to cope with the loss. Do u honestly want me to believe that the cause is because of this tragedy is because of unfortunate events? Who decides how these unfortunate events occur or who it happens to? Plus, if you really think about it, then why do we exist then? Why do we bleed when we are pricked and why do we sweat if its hot? I know your going to say its the body's way of dealing with certain problems, but what i believe is that God makes our bodies and we are the ones that control them. If something bad happens to them, then for the most part, we are responsible. But for a persons heart to just stop, when they dont do drugs, aren't overweight and workout regularly, is a sign that someone or something is out there fucking with us.

Do u honestly want me to believe that the cause is because of this tragedy is because of unfortunate events?

Uh... yes. That's the whole point of, you know, having a brain, common sense, and an education. To give you enough logic not believe in some invisible man in the sky.

Who decides how these unfortunate events occur or who it happens to?

Nobody "decides." You are looking for an answer to the unknown and becoming afraid of it, and thus labeling it as an "act of god."

But for a persons heart to just stop, when they dont do drugs, aren't overweight and workout regularly, is a sign that someone or something is out there fucking with us.

Really, what can you NOT understand about it? His heart FAILED. Nobody MADE IT FAIL. An omnipotent being did not snap his fingers and kill your friend. I'm sure the autopsy will provide a completely logical reason for his death. Perhaps he had a rupture in his left ventricle as a child and it became a problem that one night... regardless, he was not murdered. He simply died because his heart gave out.

Plus, if you really think about it, then why do we exist then? Why do we bleed when we are pricked and why do we sweat if its hot? I know your going to say its the body's way of dealing with certain problems, but what i believe is that God makes our bodies and we are the ones that control them.

This is just crazy. God did not create your body. Your parents created your body. Your life and death are not predetermined.

To quote Vonnegut - "Vy you? Vy anybody?" It's impossible to know all the reasons behind everything. However, there IS a reason behind every occurance and it is NOT a divine influence.

I have a genetic bone disease. I don't ask myself "why did god do this me?" Most likely, chemical spraying that occured in the city when my mom was pregnant caused it. That is hardly an act of god.

To be brusque, blaming stuff on god or any other "higher power" is cowardly and shows how weak your fortitude is, as well as your ability to understand the world around you. It makes you look stupid. You need to accept that things are constantly in motion. This causes "chance" that may not always be in your favor. But that does not make it supernatural. Just unfortunate.

That statement could be turned around on the atheists just as easily, though.

In this instance, the absence of evidence IS the evidence of absence.

In this instance, the absence of evidence IS the evidence of absence.

That line of thought has been scientifically disproven in many different instances. I do agree with you on God, but I don't find that above statement to be true at all -- there is no evidence, which is why religion is such a divisive issue.

some ppl say that these things happen just because of something bad that we did, but i think that it's not quite true. some ppl do bad things all the time and good things still happen to them. and sometimes good ppl die, but their death causes good things to happen. i know it's not fair, but just trust that God has a greater plan for everything.

and grav? why are you so intent on proving that God doesn't exist when you should be helping gruesomeBODY cope?. and why do you care what he believes in?! if you were religious, then i could see why you care, but you have no obvious reason!

some ppl say that these things happen just because of something bad that we did, but i think that it's not quite true. some ppl do bad things all the time and good things still happen to them. and sometimes good ppl die, but their death causes good things to happen. i know it's not fair, but just trust that God has a greater plan for everything. and grav? why are you so intent on proving that God doesn't exist when you should be helping gruesomeBODY cope?. and why do you care what he believes in?! if you were religious, then i could see why you care, but you have no obvious reason!

I thought the reason was obvious. Blaming a nonexistant entity for your problems is not coping at all.

That's like saying terrorism is the reason you can't afford a new car.

Using a scapegoat is easy, real easy. It's seen repeatedly throughout history. Blacks, carpetbaggers, robber barons, judeobolshevism, communists, etc. And what does each of those situations usually end up in? Some of the worst atrocities committed in the world. Slavery, the KKK, oppression, the Holocaust, endless wars. Fear and misunderstanding causes no good. It leads to a "follower nation" who acts out of spite. In a sense, religion is no better than the KKK or Hitler.

I thought the reason was obvious. Blaming a nonexistant entity for your problems is not coping at all.

And that is exactly where my point was before. Just because you think God is a nonexistent entity, doesn't mean everyone else does. People that believe in God obviously have a different way of thinking than you do, and they believe that God has a plan for everyone. They aren't blaming him per say, they are simply asking why the God they worship is being benevolent, when they've grown up believing that He forgives all and is a kind, caring God.

Just like you cope with death, etc. by looking at scientific facts as a reason for it occurring, other people look at it as God's will for the reason. There really isn't a different, other than the fact that they rely on faith, and you on tangible, scientific data.

Just like you cope with death, etc. by looking at scientific facts as a reason for it occurring, other people look at it as God's will for the reason. There really isn't a different, other than the fact that they rely on faith, and you on tangible, scientific data.

What's a difference between a stereotype and a generalization?

Stereotypes are created through a lack of understanding.

Generalizations are based on fact.

Stereotypes are wrong and ignorant.

Generalizations are true and logical.

Titus hit my point exactly

Asking why God killed your friend is like subscribing to a stereotype. It's stupid, illogical, and unprovable. Using that sort of thinking is akin to saying everyone from the Middle East is a towelhead terrorist. Are you that provincial?

i didn't think that he was blaming God anymore, but hey! I could be wrong.

You've all missed Grav's point once again, even though he's taking it farther than he should. Believing in a "God" or anything else is fine, but when you are just using whatever you believe in to blame your problems on, that isn't going to fix anything. Grav is just taking it farther than he should.