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Posted 2008-05-27, 08:31 AM in reply to Asamin's post starting "/signed To have something you must..."
Where did the first molecule come from that the universe was created from?














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Posted 2008-05-27, 09:12 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Where did the first molecule come from..."
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Where did the first molecule come from that the universe was created from?
In a thread about evolution, that's not really relevant.

And if that's supposed to be an argument for God, it's pathetic. It says nothing about any evidence indicating a God, it merely states that we have a question left to answer. It's an argument from ignorance.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 09:32 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Where did the first molecule come from..."
No-one will know if there is truly a God until they die.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 10:35 PM in reply to Coriander's post starting "No-one will know if there is truly a..."
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No-one will know if there is truly a God until they die.
Just curious. What makes you think, even if there is a God, that you will find out when you die? There very well could be a God but we still just die and nothing happens after that.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 10:59 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Just curious. What makes you think,..."
But if that is a case, I thought it was destined that, if you believe in god and followed the right path, You would go to heaven. And if believed in god, and lived a life of sin, or didn't believe in god, you were going to hell. So if there is a god then you would wind up in Heaven or Hell. But if there isn't then you rot in the ground..IMO.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 11:03 PM in reply to Coriander's post starting "But if that is a case, I thought it was..."
According to Christian beliefs, yes. However, I'm talking about God in general, not necessarily the "Christian" God. The existance of a God and the existance of an afterlife are not necessarily related. There could be a God but no afterlife.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 11:06 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "According to Christian beliefs, yes. ..."
Hmm, That is true, But that wouldn't quiet seem right. Unless the god abandoned us. Well K_A, you have me stumped. Although, It doesn't quiet seem right,That a God would abandon his people. In Buddhism, when you die, you get re-born until you reach Enlightenment, and once you reach Enlightment, you stop being Re-born. Which ultimately means you die.
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Posted 2008-05-27, 11:18 PM in reply to Coriander's post starting "Hmm, That is true, But that wouldn't..."
Actually, once you reach Enlightenment, you basically are in a higher plane of existance, if I remember right.

Anyway, you're thinking of "God" as a human-like being that has emotions and such. What if "God" is just a being that works with no intentions for anything or any sort of care about anything. Basically, God does what he wants on a whim. Or maybe he works like a machine, where he simply just does something.

You're defining a "God" as basically an overseer or something. Why couldn't a "God" just be an entity?
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Posted 2008-05-28, 07:31 AM in reply to Coriander's post starting "Hmm, That is true, But that wouldn't..."
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Hmm, That is true, But that wouldn't quiet seem right. Unless the god abandoned us. Well K_A, you have me stumped. Although, It doesn't quiet seem right,That a God would abandon his people. In Buddhism, when you die, you get re-born until you reach Enlightenment, and once you reach Enlightment, you stop being Re-born. Which ultimately means you die.
Coriander, what makes you think we're "his people." I mean, we occupy a tiny fraction on a pale blue dot which goes around a normal sized star which is not even seen as a spec of light from a distance. Maybe life was just an afterthought to him/her/it. A nice piece of decoration...
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