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Posted 2003-12-16, 10:04 PM
This is gonna b a complete new concept of melee dueling for me now. My 09 pally raped everyone but apoq (even bugged ith gayasses) and im hoping ill have just as good pally this time. Some adviced is asked tho:

My pally would use the following

Shako
Nords (or 5soc runemaster, once i find good ed/ias jewels, already got axe.. or botd eth zerker :P)
Upgraded Shaft
177% upgraded zak (is it upgradeable?)
verdungos (forgot +vit #)
247/19 raven
180/20 raven
highlords
(NEED GLOVES SUGGESTION!!)
gore riders

Stats:
200Str
100Vit
base energy
rest into dex(some 300dex i think)

Skills:
20 zeal
20 hs
20 fana
1 sanc
5 defiance
res into charge

The overall goal here is to achieve massive amts of def and mass AR to beat those other def chars, with obviously 75block and 50+dr (50 being max). So i will need gloves suggestions , socket suggestions, and charm suggestions. Any helpful (as in, constructive) comments would be welcomed. Thanks.
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Posted 2003-12-17, 06:27 AM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
I'm not all entirely sure if this would be a good idea coming from me, but I have a few suggestions worth looking into I guess.

If you are going to have as much Dex as you are saying, then I don't think all 20 points are completely necessary in HS. Now that life leech has been nerfed to almost the point of non-existence, the more damage you inflict the better. With this said, I would get HS at like 10-12 or so, and the + Skills should be enough to easily get max Block and high enough defense.

I would suggest allocating some points into Sacrifice (I think that is the synergy) to pump up Zeals damage. Unless you have a BOTD, Charge will only hit as your initial attack on such few occassions that pumping it to Max is almost pointless, IMHO. Like I've said, I'm not positive if what I'm saying is stupid or not, but they are just some thought that I think deserve some extra thought maybe.

As for gloves, I have a few suggestions. Firstly, I'm not up to date with the use of Curses and if they are cheap or not, but if they are, go with Steelrand Ogre Gaunts: High Def, 20 Str (Which will give more stats for Dex/Vit), 10% Crushing Blow (More damage), and 60% ED (Obvious advantages).

If Curses are considered legit through the use of Chance to Cast them, then either of the other two Elite Gloves are good, depending on what you want more. Soul Drains give 8% Weaken, which will reduce your enemies damage by 33%, or Dracul's Grasp, which gives 5% life tap, a.k.a., give you an effective 50% life leech on striking.

Charms, basically life/str or dex, so you can save points and allocate in other places. Not exactly sure though.
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Posted 2003-12-17, 02:54 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
lt does not work on pvp
and I will need some IAS on gloves - something soul drains, dracul, nor steelrand gives.

Also, i do not plan on using leech anyway. The defense + dr + block SHOULD help me not take dmg, but im unsure.
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Posted 2003-12-17, 05:32 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
Smiters kill you.


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Posted 2003-12-17, 07:49 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
hmm.. yea smiters would b a problem. can def help vs smite?
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Posted 2003-12-17, 09:28 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
DarkestFears said:
Skills:
20 zeal
20 hs
20 fana
1 sanc
5 defiance
res into charge
If you max charge, assuming... 10 prereqs... that's only 96 points. That still leaves you... 12 points at my count.
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Posted 2003-12-17, 09:51 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
DarkestFears said:
hmm.. yea smiters would b a problem. can def help vs smite?
Smite ignores target defense, and most smiters have around 13-20k def.


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Posted 2003-12-18, 12:03 AM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
i dont plan on going 99, and any suggestions for fighting smiterdins?

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Posted 2003-12-18, 02:49 AM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
They can't block while smiting (I think), but the high def is a problem. With the insane dex, I don't really know if the 2 Ravens are necessary.

True, they will boost your AR and defense, but you could likely get better returns with 2x Bul-Kathos rings, as they would give:
~100 Life
+2 Skills, which would boost your AR by 30%, boost your Zeal damage by 46%, and raise your defense by 30% on HS.

Granted, you lose your 'Cannot Be Frozen', but a Cham rune would fix that, and the rings give you a higher damage potential (By 6% over a 40/15) and boost AR/DEF to boot.

Weapons:
1. The BOTD zerker would give you 4 FPA Zeal without any ias sockets, plus it's a great damaging weapon. It also gives you the Eth rune bonus of -25% target defense. Also, the +30 all attributes is ALWAYS nice.

2. The Runemaster is a great choice also, it would give 4 FPA Zeal with 4x 40/15 ias, if your gloves happened to be Bloodfist (Which happen to be my favorite gloves). You have 1 socket in-weapon to play with, which could be an Eth rune or 40/15 max or whatever. Also, the 'Cannot be Frozen' eliminates the need for a 'Frost or Cham socket.

3. Nords would be a slightly inferior choice in my opinion. The AR% bonus is nice, but Baranar's Star would give better. The downside is Baranar's has slightly less physical damage, but has a little higher max on elemental. But neither needs any ias sockets to get 4 FPA Zeal.

Gloves should likely be Bloodfist. They give great FHR, +40 life, a small ias boost, and +minimum damage. Where's the bad?

That sums up my opinions on equipment. I'm no PvP-Gosu, but I help where I can.
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Posted 2003-12-18, 09:18 AM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
thx voll for ur input.

Im gonna get bloodfist for the gloves, also is a ethereal tyrant club droppable? it repairs dur and does 230% ed with 13ll (and more i believe, i dont have a perfect). It seems it would b the least expensive of all. I cannot afford BOTD zerker ( i dont think i can... someone help me here ) nor 40/15s on ladder or cham runes.
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Posted 2003-12-18, 03:01 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
Well, for Nords, with max Fanat, you will only need 45 IAS, and 25 of which is on the weapon, so you will only need 20 IAS for 4 FPS Zeal. You can get that elsewhere, not only on gloves. Those gloves are probably the best to get, other than maybe some badass crafteds.
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Posted 2003-12-18, 04:07 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
ur pally build aint bad, n yes zak can be upgraded but the def will be same juz that u'll do more dmg wif smite around 600+ xtra smite dmg, by now ur pally should be quite good....care to duel mine? im in ladder useast as for gloves use draculs =) open wound helps alot in duels ....btw gorerider aint that good in pvp get travs add 25-50 dmg ...thats alot ....btw 60%steelrend would cost u ur acc++++++++++++++ .....i aint kiddin they go for like 2xenigmas if its perfect as for skill max all synergies only 1 into charge all spare points into defiance ....trust me more def , less % of u gettin hit by a botd btw how much ar/def u got now?
i got 22k def,17k ar on my pally as for smiters....there is no way to beat em if ur a zealot unless u can kill them in 1-2 hits from zeal or charge ....cuz its pointless to even smite duel a smiter as he does more dmg wif more speed than u

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Posted 2003-12-18, 05:03 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
hmm, ic. draculs then, since i have 25+20(highlords) for ias. gore is useful for the DS (2x dmg), so it should b useful.
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Posted 2003-12-18, 09:23 PM in reply to DarkestFears's post "New 110 pally build"
Titusfied said:
You can get that elsewhere, not only on gloves.
He's rolling Highlords, he's covered. I spent like 1/2 hour putting all that together for him. That's more thought than I put in my own chars, lol.

But then, I'm slipping away from playing Diablo as I have no time. But then, I'll be switching jobs here soon to Part-Time, so I can start playing again.
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