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George W. Bush 12 42.86%
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Posted 2004-05-29, 09:46 AM in reply to Syn's post starting "And you're fine with endangering the..."
Anyway, I'm going to try to get back on topic, and get away from the North Korea topic. I'm going to repost something I wrote about Bush a few months ago, stating a few reasons why I don't like him.

Mjordan2nd said:
I don't dislike bush for the way he handled 9/11. I don't see much other way he could have responded to a vicious and unprecedented attack like that. By attacking terrorists, he handled that well. I now realize that America had to respond, regardless of the innocent people that died. Taking out Al-qaeda was important. I dislike bush because, as RS stated, he actually might be dumber than a brick. If you hold a high American office, such as governor, you should know who the PM of Canada is. Don't try to cover it up. He had no idea what he was talking about, and if he didn't know people were talking about then he should've asked. That wasn't a smart response. It was a stupid response.

One slip-up I can see, and someone being watched as close as the president, I can see many slip-ups, but look at the long list of "Bushisms." Look back in the chat forum, around a month or two ago. I had posted many "Bushisms," and the sad thing is that was a mere fraction of his slip-ups. The worst thing is, that I don't even think the man realized he had slipped up on some of them, until he was told later.

I was in India for the summer, and the media there had a much different story of what was happening in Iraq than what you hear here. Most of the Iraqi people would rather have Saddam than an American government. You would think we're helping the Iraqi people, hell I can see why one would look at it that way, but unless someone asks you for help you shouldn't try to force help down there throats. And where are the supposed weapons of mass destruction that this whole war was over? I'll tell you where they are. Right here: http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ Now, considering this war was over nothing, imagine how it would feel if you lost a brother, sister, mother, father, or close friend as a casualty of war, simply because Dubya needed to finish what daddy started.

Some of you claim that he exemplifies the values that the founding fathers of America created this country on, but on the contrary, he is diminishing the very values that this country was created on. The founding fathers of this country separated church and state for a reason, yet you are saying that him having strong Christian values somehow strengthens the basis of our nation. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Not only has he lead us into a frivolous war in Iraq, but perhaps you have not heard of the Patriot Act, where he is taking away your right to protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Perhaps you have not heard of how he has let Ashcroft eat away at our right to fair trial. The worst thing is that he is Ashcroft's puppet. Ashcroft is a scary man. And what about withdrawing from the anti-ballistic missile treaty. Now, I wonder, what would he want to do that for.

"There ought to be limits to freedom." That is a quote straight from your beloved president. Now, at first look, I guess the quote doesn't look all that bad, but you have no idea what he is referring to with that quote. Perhaps you think there ought to be limits to what arms we can bear or something. Well, it's not about that. Bush said this about a website that was attacking him; about what he has done in the past with drugs and stuff. Again, I must ask, why would he want to do this? Simply so there isn't bad things said about him. This doesn't sound like democracy to me. This is altering the Bill of Rights. I'm sure that our founding fathers just wanted to change the first amendment and abolish our freedom of speech. Great way to run a democracy! If we keep this up we might end up in a (*pause*) dictatorship.

And as for him being dumb, well, lets see, he has managed to screw the English language in just about every way possible. When any other president did that he was brutally criticized about it, but with Bush, it is a "bushism."
Some of this might not make sense, because it was in reply to someone elses post.

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Posted 2004-05-29, 03:17 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Anyway, I'm going to try to get back on..."
Ok, you people must think to attack a nuclear country you have to use nukes ? Why kind of retards are you people. It's called assassins. Plus get people on the inside to take them out from there. They kill all the evil people and the country is saved. Get rid of the nukes and there's nothing to worry about. Try to think past saving your ass just cause nukes are a possiblity.
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Posted 2004-05-29, 03:21 PM in reply to badboy's post starting "Ok, you people must think to attack a..."
We were talking about going to war with North Korea. That involves much more than assassins. And you're calling us retards?
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Posted 2004-05-29, 09:51 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "We were talking about going to war with..."
first of all: assassins = dirty and underhanded...dishonorable

second of all: we go to war with them = possible WW III?

finally: can we just make negotiations with N. Korea?
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Posted 2004-05-30, 09:43 AM in reply to KagomJack's post starting "first of all: assassins = dirty and..."
No we cannot negotiate with NK, their leader is a terrible person and cannot be allowed to hold power. It makes me sick that there are so many wusses in the world.
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Posted 2004-05-30, 10:30 AM in reply to zagggon's post starting "No we cannot negotiate with NK, their..."
zagggon said:
No we cannot negotiate with NK, their leader is a terrible person and cannot be allowed to hold power. It makes me sick that there are so many wusses in the world.
And who the fuck are you to pass that judgement. He might be a bad person, but it isn't our call. Exactly what crimes is he being charged with? I would like sources.
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Posted 2004-05-30, 02:52 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "And who the fuck are you to pass that..."
mjordan2nd said:
And who the fuck are you to pass that judgement. He might be a bad person, but it isn't our call. Exactly what crimes is he being charged with? I would like sources.
If you live in the current world and are not aware of the infinite crimes Leader Kim and his regime have comited then you are an oblivious moron.
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Posted 2004-05-30, 04:13 PM in reply to zagggon's post starting "No we cannot negotiate with NK, their..."
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No we cannot negotiate with NK, their leader is a terrible person and cannot be allowed to hold power. It makes me sick that there are so many wusses in the world.
Let me tell you something, it is better to try to negotiate before going to war to "liberate" people.

I don't mind going in and fighting first and then negotiate, but that is just brute strength without trying at least other alternatives. Good thing you showed us you'd prefer us to be warmongers.
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